12 Jun 2010
2. No Flash
Iain Thomson: Technically you could class this with the first
point, but it's such a topic du jour I thought we'd do it separately.
Apple maintains that Flash is buggy, sucks power and doesn't belong on smartphones. Everyone else seems to be fine with it and, while it's not the most mobile-friendly bit of code in the book, it does have its uses, as any internet user will tell you. HTML5 is the next logical step, and it has a lot of Flash developers hitting the textbooks to update their skills.
Flash isn't absolutely essential but it's pretty high on the list of things people want to use on the internet. No-one knows what caused such close chums as Adobe and Apple to fall out, but the result benefits no-one. The stand against Flash, in my opinion, is not about code viability but politics. IT has enough problems without this kind of horseplay.
Shaun Nichols: Flash may be a battery hog with security flaws and have the stability of a child's tree house, but it's also used by a great many developers and web sites.
This is where Apple's attitudes about its products can rub people the wrong way. The company may be trying to keep its devices secure and deliver the best product possible, but they're also telling the users that they don't know what is best for themselves and they're not smart enough to make the decision themselves.
The least Apple can do is give users the option. Add Flash support to the iPhone, disable it by default and add an option into the 'settings' panel to activate Flash content. Unfortunately, these days Apple seems to prefer telling users what they want over listening to what users say they want
1. Apple's walled garden
Shaun Nichols: Apple's not really known as a company that
plays well with others, and nowhere is this more apparent than with the iPhone.
If you want to get software for your iPhone, you have to use Apple's App Store and iTunes. There is the option of bypassing the controls by jailbreaking your phone, but that process is not recommended to novice users, and OS updates often disable the jailbreak and can sometimes render the handset unusable.
If you want to develop software for the iPhone, you have to register with Apple and submit your product for the company's approval.
Apple says that the reason for such tight controls is to keep the platform, and its users, safe from malware infection, but there's also the business angle. Developers aren't allowed to offer any products that compete with Apple's in-house offerings. Recently the company also banned developers from using certain ad networks.
If you remember, these are just the sort of practices that led to Microsoft and Intel's respective anti-trust cases, and there are rumblings that Apple is already in the cross-hairs of government regulators.
Not only have users and developers paid for Apple's tight controls, but the company itself may soon suffer for its paranoid approach.
Iain Thomson: We had some discussions on this one, quite heated at times, and it could have taken two or three talking points on its own. This really is the key philosophical problem with Apple.
Right now Apple is like a partner with issues. If you want to use the hardware you have to buy into the entire ecosystem, however scary that is.
ITunes used to be a great bit of code but now is a bloated Elvis-like application that waddles through your system to do a halfway passable job. One can only hope it doesn't expire in the waste basket in the same way. But the rest of Apple's infrastructure is just as worrying.
We're already seeing anti-trust regulators looking into Apple's platform deals, and I suspect we'll see much more action ahead. Apple is about to discover what it feels like to be in the spotlight of regulators, not as the plucky underdog but as a corporate force that harms competition and choice.
At the moment Apple reserves the right to choose what it runs on its platform. That's all well and good if it were done on a technical basis, but Apple is also reserving the right to block satire, pornography or what it deems 'questionable' internet content.
That's not something for a service provider to do, it's a job for an individual, and I'm concerned at the extent to which one company can infringe on my liberty.
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forward facing camera??
What a joke., what do you whant to do with that? You can't even swap the battery, or memory card. Yeah that shows apples goodwill with you, poor simpleminded apple user
Posted by: hero 20 Jun 2010
i4
Mostly of features of i4 are not life.They are game.You can live without them.
Posted by: Leopold 20 Jun 2010
iPhone still set the standards and lead the way
Android OS is better than iPhone OS. No doubt about that. Symbian can have more features that are readily available on their devices. (I hate to break it down to you but symbian is dying.) These devices come default with features that are not available on iPhone. Like open video calling, flash etc. That?s why we need to jailbreak our iPhone and give them all those features that that are not available. On top of those features, add the iPhone friendly user interface (Even a 2 year old girl can use it http://www.mashable.com/2010/04/06/2-year-old-gir... better battery life (That?s why android phones come with a spare battery. You can?t even change iPhone batteries. Apple is confident that they are good enough), then you add the sleek design on the outside. Android phones are ugly. After all that, you can the best Smartphone on the planet. Can?t wait to get my iPhone 4 and jailbreak it. There is no way I?m moving to Android or any other device. That?s second had design and I'm very content with my iPhones
Posted by: Patcheko 19 Jun 2010
Stockholm syndrome
I'm reading on one forum that some Apple users are worried about using other SIM cards in case it breaks the phone. And loads of these supposedly technically savvy users seem to lack the confidence to cut a SIM card for themselves. Some people might not believe that iPhone users are as happy and free as everyone else until the word jailbreak goes out of circulation
Posted by: andy 19 Jun 2010
umm...
I'm using iOS4 and the multi-tasking isn't that great. everything you open, remains open. Even if the phone is powered off and back on, they all re-open. Why would I need to multitask the camera??? However, the iPhone 4 will be in great demand and even some android users will make the move. Why? Because this is a great phone, that is rock solid and stable, is easy to use and makes using the web childs play. Sure, Apple are restrictive as to what runs on their devices, but that's a good thing. I don't want to hack my phone to control my TV or to get around operator restrictions. I want a reliable handset. My 3G and 3GS' served me well, which is why I will upgrade to the iPhone 4. Do I care what you think? Nope. It's a phone. Get over it, if I want to get one, that's my choice. Every time a new phone is released you will always have the stubborn user set that feel pi££ed that they've just upgraded / splashed on a new handset and can't afford another purchase, who then don their trolling outfit and spam the web with their hate. Someone call the whaaa-mbulance. No one cares. Go and yak about it on your handsets forums...
Posted by: Lynas 16 Jun 2010
Hey 'posted by Bill Gates'
If it's a question of size, you are going to find yourself lacking. I'd rather have something big enough to wave around than a speck that requires a microscope. Good idea -check that 'enlargement' spam email, it may make you feel bigger. Sounds like you need something to support your diminished view of the world.
Posted by: Bob Todd 15 Jun 2010
'Wow new features'
N95 3 years old... and running at 1/10th of the speed. enjoy your stuttering video and slow web page loads. Loser.
Posted by: Bert Fry 15 Jun 2010
Sceptics step aside
While Apple can be undoubtedly infuriating with odd policies, opinions and practices, they do create products that many find and feel fit their needs. Contrast the damp response to the ipad from so-called experts against the warm embrace of consumers. Who can honestly have guessed that the ipod would hold reign over the entire music market or that consumers would by their music from itunes in such numbers. The very things that Apple is attacked for are, for many, the reasons they stay or join the party. Sure we can knock or find deficiencies in their policies or their product, but the in the end what Apple get right is playing to their strengths. Stop moaning about that it doesn't do what Android can. It's different and works for many. So if you don't like it go buy something else. As for me, a confirmed Apple sceptic, I think this time I'm going with Apple. btw it is relatively easy to source a factory unlocked iphone for use with any network. Costs up front are higher but over two years, the same or in many cases cheaper (depending on network).
Posted by: Qjames 15 Jun 2010
Wow, loads of "New" features
Wow, a 5 megapixel camera, with flash? Front facing camera? Video calling? Multi tasking? Nokia N95, three years old now.
Posted by: Andrew B 15 Jun 2010
Be carefull with your iphone guys
Apple in their wisdom do let you take the phone anywhere (even if it may not work) so you can drop it in a river and it may break. Then again stupid people will break whatever they have either by manual means or by downloading malware - At lease i have the choice !
Posted by: Sym 15 Jun 2010
Sick and Tired
All this bickering about Apple products may make both "fanbois" and "droids" and other factions happy, but for people looking for simple and unbiased reviews it creates a tiresome and frustration situation for people like me who are still to buy there first smart phone. There are no straight answers, just fire and fury left right and centre. To be honest, the sheer amount of emotion involved in all these tech debates is doing nothing but encouraging me to stick with my low tech phone. I just wanted a smart phone, not to pledge my allegiance. What ever you decide your made to feel like a complete fool by either side.
Posted by: Larna 15 Jun 2010
Want cheese with your whine Apple Fanboi?
You call this "For and against" It reads mostly "against". Maybe it is a British thing - I don't know. It seems most articles with a .uk in the URL are that way. All ... ... less transparent. Posted by: Steve W, 13 Jun 2010 Lets face it. Apple sucks. Generally Apple users are dicks and you've just proven my point. I thank you my good man.
Posted by: Bill Gates 15 Jun 2010
Early adopter blues...
You say that the new iPhone will have lots of issues, but supply no proof. - Were there any issues with previous iPhones to support this ridiculous assumption? HTC are having lots of issues with their phones, poor or patchy screen response, terrible battery life, screens coming apart and light leakage, yet you mention none of this. Android already has a situation with multiple versions for different phones, - how can this be easy for the consumer, in terms of which App will work with which handset, and what happens when you change your phone? Yes Android is open. Open to malware, viruses etc. Android users must be so looking forward to the day they have to use AV software on their phones, like they do on Windows. - Very anti-Apple biased piece of journalism I'd say.
Posted by: Infiniteloop 15 Jun 2010
Mon Dieu Jobbs
Apple are wonderful, Apple are amazing, I love Apple, I love Apple. For pity's sake, give it a rest fanbois.
Posted by: Spunwicked 15 Jun 2010
Sceptics step aside
While Apple can be undoubtedly infuriating with odd policies, opinions and practices, they do create products that many find and feel fit their needs. Contrast the damp response to the ipad from so-called experts against the warm embrace of consumers. Who can honestly have guessed that the ipod would hold reign over the entire music market or that consumers would by their music from itunes in such numbers. The very things that Apple is attacked for are, for many, the reasons they stay or join the party. Sure we can knock or find deficiencies in their policies or their product, but the in the end what Apple get right is playing to their strengths. Stop moaning about that it doesn't do what Android can. It's different and works for many. So if you don't like it go buy something else. As for me, a confirmed Apple sceptic, I think this time I'm going with Apple. btw it is relatively easy to source a factory unlocked iphone for use with any network. Costs up front are higher but over two years, the same or in many cases cheaper (depending on network).
Posted by: Qjames 15 Jun 2010
Android all the way.
The latest HTC phones running Android 2.1 make everything iPhone looks totally inferior in every regard. iOS won't change this.
Posted by: Mark 15 Jun 2010
Good review but self-conflicting
On the one hand you laud the design prowess of Jonathan Ive's hardware, design being the unilateral decision-making which dictates how a products looks, feels, works. Yet when the same decision-making is applied to software or 'eco system' it's somehow oppressive. Apple have always been quite directive in their application of products, making hard decisions and standing ground. This is their key strength/point of difference and why they've moved from computer company to a consumer electronics company. I would suggest for the people who still respond to choice & 'openness' then Android is a better platform. I like the ability to choose to have no choice (after a while you come to realise choice is actually a mechanism for the other). Of course, as a consumer I have no choice either way, I can either have products designed by the Cupertino company that has a clue, or products free of restriction and consequently good design from the technology hoards. No choice really. McD
Posted by: McDave 14 Jun 2010
You call this "For and against"
It reads mostly "against". Maybe it is a British thing - I don't know. It seems most articles with a .uk in the URL are that way. All your "for" points have some built-in dissension, something I would not expect in a "top" reason. I can hold that against ".uk"; as, for many years, it seemed to be standard editorial policy in my country that every pro Apple statement must include a "but". On the other hand, your "against" reasons do not contain any "buts"; they are solidly in the "against" column - even when it takes half truths and sensationalism to put them there. Some examples: You mention suicides at Foxconn. The "but" is that none of the recent suicides have been attributed to employees building Apple products, "but" you don't mention that. The suicide rate in China is lower than in Korea, where HTC builds your beloved Android products, "but" you don't mention that either. You talk about AT&T. Why not talk about the telcos in YOUR country? Tell us about your actual experience, rather than repeating what others say. I can't believe any or your readers would seriously consider the telco problems in a foreign country a "top" reason not to buy a phone in their own country. You are worried that Apple is more ambitious that its partners. That is a "top" reason if anything is. [/sarcasm] The truth is just the opposite. The reason AT&T isn't spending enough on 3G is that they are ramping up 4G. With "Early Adopter Syndrome" you manage to be both cynical and hypocritical at the same time. One of your "top" reasons "against" is that the iPhone 4 and iOS 4 are new. Another of your "top" reasons "against" is that there are even newer Android phones and OS versions coming soon. At best, one should be a "but" to the other; you list them both in the same column. You use the sensationalist phrase "iPad breach" even though the iPad itself wasn't "breached". What does that have to do with the iPhone anyhow? Again, you manage to use the problems of a telco in another country as a reason not to buy a phone in your country. "Apple has had a free reign in terms of malware for a long time, because no criminal targets one out of ten users when the other nine are ripe from the plucking." That statement has been categorically proven false in the case of the iPhone. There is no malware on the vanilla iPhone; however, there is malware on "jail-broken" iPhones; even though only "one out of ten users" jail-breaks their iPhone. This is a case where it's the "one out of ten users" that is "ripe from the plucking" [sic]. I seriously doubt that the reason the other nine are safe is because no criminals are targeting them. I think it has more to do with "plucking" the low hanging fruit. "Everyone else seems to be fine with Flash it seems...." Oh RLY? Tell us about Flash performance on your beloved Android! You do have Flash on your Android phone, don't you. "If you want to get software for your iPhone, you have to use Apple's App Store and iTunes." "If you want to develop software for the iPhone, you have to register with Apple and submit your product for the company's approval." Apple supports TWO development platforms, X-code and the completely free and open HTML/CSS/Javascript; "but" you fail to mention that. You do mention that "Apple says that the reason for such tight controls are to keep the platform, and its users, safe from malware infection, but..." There is that "but" again. In your previous point you claim the iPhone is unsafe, "but" in this point you object to Apple's efforts to make it more safe. You poo-poo-ed the so-called "iPad breach", while objecting to Apple's ban on analytical spy-ware ads. You say Apple is banning ads, when this is not the case. If iAds were to collect the kind of information that Google collects, you would probably claim iAds := malware. All the so-called "iPad breach" did was collect email address. You think Google doesn't know your email address? I could go on and on.... If you want to title an article "for and against", try to be a little less transparent.
Posted by: Steve W 13 Jun 2010
The "TOP" irony
I said I could go on and on, but this one is too juicy to leave out. One of your "top" reasons against the iPhone 4 is the so-called "iPad breach" in which a security firm harvested email addresses from AT&T. The "have your say" portion of this website also harvests email addresses, "but" you don't see that as a problem.
Posted by: Steve W 13 Jun 2010
multistaking!!
Apple didn't introduce multitasking because it drained the battery life, but apple found out how to make this feature more battery friendly. thats why apple dissed the competition and left it out until now. its about doing it right!!
Posted by: robert Smith 13 Jun 2010
With respect to content...
.... I think Apple should go with parental controls and ratings in the settings that block questionable content as well as Flash. But why donate a new meta platform for Adobe to build on when they funded none of the costs?
Posted by: Shock Me 13 Jun 2010
Be careful with Android phones guys...
There are already Android apps in circulation that steal bank account details. See here... http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10466230-245.html http://www.phonenews.com/fake-mobile-banking-app-discovered-in-android-marketplace-9949/ I don't think there will be malware on the iPhone because of Apples app approval process.
Posted by: Paul 12 Jun 2010
Why blame Apple for the AT&T breach?
In what way was the 'iPad' breach, anything to do with Apple? I was under the impression that it was a hack targeted against AT&T and its webservers? Perhaps I had better re-read the article, i obviously missed the bit that said it was against Apple's servers??? No?
Posted by: dale 12 Jun 2010