08 May 2010
2.
Jules Verne
Iain Thomson: If you're talking about strict SF, Verne is the
one that really kicked it all off. While you can argue that Gulliver's
Travels or even Arabian Nights is SF, to my mind you have to have
science before you have SF.
Verne was a child of the industrial revolution and took technology and wrote it into stories that inspired generations. As someone writing at the dawn of modern science, he was well placed to apply modern reasoning and learning to fictional formats.
Verne's writings predicted a host of inventions, including everything from air conditioning to helicopters. Many of these were foreseeable - Leonardo da Vinci had envisaged helicopters hundreds of years before - but many were fantastic in the minds of his readers. Some of his writing was also prescient. One story involved three astronauts launched from southern Florida in a capsule that splashes back to Earth.
Verne mixed with some of the finest French writers and is still honoured in as one of the country's literary greats. But the French always did have the excellent knack of recognising great writers.
Shaun Nichols: France may have the edge when it comes to writers, fashion, food and art, but at least you Brits still have comedy. I mean, really, Jerry Lewis? Plus the whole not-surrendering-to-Germany thing should be a nice feather in your cap.
Verne was not only a great author, but an incredible visionary when you look at the time in which he crafted his works. When Verne wrote his greatest novels there were no aeroplanes, deep-sea vessels or rocket technology. Yet he still wrote stories such as Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea, From the Earth to the Moon and Around the World in 80 Days. Amazing when you think about it.
You also have to wonder just how intimately Verne is connected to some of the great achievements of the 20th century. Certainly he inspired more than a few people to take up science as a profession, but how driven would we have been to make achievements such as the Moon landing or deep sea exploration had Verne not had our imaginations mulling over that possibility for several decades?
At the very least, Verne is to be credited as the father of SF. At the very most, he can also be credited with helping to inspire some of the biggest breakthroughs of science in the 20th century.
1.
Arthur C Clarke
Shaun Nichols: Considered a pillar of the genre, Sir Arthur C
Clarke is in the top spots of just about every list like this.
Best known for writing 2001: A Space Odyssey, Clarke penned a number of other iconic works of SF that entertained and inspired millions, dealing almost exclusively in hardcore SF.
One of the great things about SF is its ability to examine many of the basic characteristics and behaviours of mankind without the constraints or biases of our current society. The most popular question asked by SF authors is 'What makes us human?', a query that Clarke regularly made with his most popular works.
Another great element of Clarke's work is the use of fantastic, larger than life images. He has a flair for crafting stories in which the entire world seems to change dramatically. To conjure up the images Clarke required an amazing imagination, and to clearly convey them required an even more amazing writing skill.
Iain Thomson: Writing Clarke's obituary was a grim task. The man was so influential in SF and had lasted so long, that you suspected he'd stumbled across some secret elixir of life.
For anyone growing up in the latter half of the 20th century he was the man of popular science. His ideas, like the communications satellite, revolutionised our world and he was on hand to lend an opinion on everything from the Apollo launches to the possibility of the existence of Bigfoot. He also devised his famous three laws:
1. When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is probably wrong.
2. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
3. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Clarke had a mind that could encompass the galaxy and he used tried and tested science and built it into story lines so that it was central to the plot but not overwhelmingly so.
I can well remember sitting under the covers with a torch reading Summertime on Icarus and realising that you could build a gripping story around low gravity transportation. He was also not above humour, ending one story with a line about a 'star-mangled spanner'.
Clarke's work has dated rather well, not least because he updated everything. In latter years he did too many weak co-written books (and a few good ones) but pick up almost any of his great works and you can relax in the hands of a master.
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How is it possible to leave out the originator of so many mainstream themes that have been imitated so successfully..
Posted by: John Riberts 30 Apr 2011
Michael Crichton
How the hell can they forget Michael Crichton, many of who's creations have been adopted into blockbuster movies
Posted by: ssg 24 May 2010
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Top 10 science fiction writers Wordsmiths who inspired the minds of mankind Only 10? Maybe 100 next time! 99.999% of published Wordsmythes who by the dim flicker of that evens single iconic candle pound away at the keys of their plastic and steel anvil forging the currency of our times from those prolix bar stocks of diction and hopefully come away with that bright polished edge that will carve out their own private niche. Only 82.5 down with balcony au lait overlooking the café of life. 99.999% of published wordsmiths have inspired at least one mind - his own and then one more - the publisher/editor and maybe a reader or two, so that's what 4? 5? I guess that that qualifies as "minds of mankind" plural. A valiant attempt but your toes were in front of the barrel long before the hammer struck the primer. SF is a huge metatopic where you need to stick in some filters for a truly meaningful result. I was able to glean more sources of potential reading pleasure from your readers submissions and pointed comments than from some of the dusty old dons that you held up to the light. But hey a go is a go is a go and you had the nerve to put it out there so good luck with the future. Cheerz M
Posted by: Michael Ferguson 22 May 2010
space opera
You include Stross but not Peter Hamilton - a bit of a mistake i would say ...
Posted by: Sym 16 May 2010
One more.
What about Michael Crichton?
Posted by: Kelly 13 May 2010
Without Frank Herbert...
this list, it has no merit.
Posted by: C.H. 13 May 2010
You really IGNORED
Isaac Asimov, how on Earth could you have forgotten him. Prolific and profound. Met the man on a few occasions, so I know he is a nice guy to boot.
Posted by: Eno-Master 13 May 2010
And Where Was ...
... Larry Niven? I'm 60 and have been reading Sci-Fi since I learned to read, and I've never heard of 3 of your 10 in any way shape or form. Niven has been writing for over 40 years and is arguably (but let's not) the world's greatest "Hard" or Technical Science Fiction. The 6 books in the Ringworld series starting in 1969, should qualify him for inclusion in this list, not to mention the HUGE number of other stories and novels he's written. Just my 2 cents worth ...
Posted by: David Hughes 13 May 2010
Very nicely done
I am hugely amused by the "experts" who don't recognise some names on this list. Anyone who couldn't name a few works by everyone on this list doesn't deserve to be called even mildly interested in SF. I also laughed out loud at suggestions such as David Weber. Good work, chaps.
Posted by: Liam Proven 13 May 2010
Another vote for Larry Niven
Ringword, Neutron Star, Protector. 'nuff said.
Posted by: Richard 13 May 2010
PeterHamilton
Not having Peter Hamilton anywhere in the list is just plain silly. One of the best writers of all time - he just happens to be still alive....
Posted by: Alan Sharkey 12 May 2010
Lester Del Ray?
The old stuff buried in the back of the Library that got us hooked to begin with.
Posted by: Bill Stadler 12 May 2010
Try reading some good SF
David Weber and Andre Norton deserve to be in the top 5 (and Dick, Ellison and Adams do not deserve to be in the top 500).
Posted by: Duncan Macdonald 12 May 2010
Only male writers need apply?
I did not realize that the pond was so wide that neither of you had heard of women writers in SF. You know that type that win Hugo's or Nebula's? Actually, after re-reading your article, I realized that the problem was minds too small to contain the data.
Posted by: mbenwade 12 May 2010
Ridiculous
Some of your added have no major works, and yet, you leave off writers like Dick, Orson Scott Card, Frank Herbert ? etc.. and while some of your included belong, several do not..
Posted by: Chris 12 May 2010
oh just half the list
Oh, that was only the top male SF writers? Where are the women, and please let's not say there weren't any that were influential: Le Guin, Tepper, Norton, McCaffery, Shelley, Cadigan, Murphy, etc. For shame, that you couldn't mention one woman.
Posted by: Doris Lessing 12 May 2010
Hmmmmm
That the article even mentions Star Trek and Red Dwarf in an article about writers posits the strong possibility it's going to be a rather, shall we say, limited, article. Write yourselves a "top 10 pop-culture sci-fi people" to get that angle out of your system. Now, the writers. Have you actually read any Arthur C Clarke or Asimov? They they don't belong in a top 10 list of *writers*, they just weren't very good authors (nor was Tolkein, but hey, that's a different top 10 list). Douglas Adams was a very funny author but sadly he doesn't deserve a place in the top 10 sci-fi writers, there are just too many more compelling writers. I think you've stepped outside your comfort zone with this one boys.
Posted by: steveg 12 May 2010
Can't say that I agree
Well... My knowledge in the area is fairly encyclopeadic (yes I know it's geeky, but then my whole life is geeky), and this list is "bogus" to put it mildly. In large part it is down to the title... The problem is this: are you writing a top-10-of-all-time, or a current top-10-as-enjoyed-by-people-today. Inlcuding the likes of HG Wells and Jules Verne strongly suggests an all-time approach, in which case some of the other choices are bizarre, and vice versa. Many of Gibson's books have not aged well, and Stephenson's output is very spotty. Also, today's writing styles are very different from the likes of Asimov, and I'd suggest that Banks or Reynolds would win hands down with most consumers just because of that. Others who I would have expected to see: David Brin, Alastair Reynolds, Frank Herbert, maybe even Larry Niven (yes his output was variable, but it's hard to argue with Ringworld, the Mote, Integral Trees et al as being great high concept).
Posted by: Kerome 12 May 2010
You forgot!
Jack Vance.
Posted by: James Tiberius 12 May 2010
What an intriguing comment...
"..Where are Robert A Heinlein, John Wyndham or Arthur C Clarke? Isaac Assimov? James Blish?.." Clarke and Asimov are included. And who reads Blish nowadays? Only the top-end geeks who expect the maths behind a 'warp engine' to be explained, the molecular details of Jovian ice chemistry to be presented, and the benefits of modern hydraulics technology to be presented in medieval Latin. Blish is far too intellectual a science-fiction writer to be included in any 'top-ten' list....
Posted by: dodgy geezer 12 May 2010
PKD??????
You left out Philip K. Dick??? Without whom no Gibson, no Snow Crash, no Blade Runner, no cyberpunk... you're obviously not doing the right drugs
Posted by: Bob Dobbs 12 May 2010
wth with this list
Where is the likes of Peter F Hamilton, jesus that list sucked. Not impressed.
Posted by: NoYB 12 May 2010
Old SF is mostly of historical interest.
SF evolves. Most good SF has been written in the last 15 - 20 years since the authors and the readership matured and writing became more competitive. Charles Stross, AC Clark and Neal Stephenson were mentioned but not Stephen Baxter (the best Evolution introduction ever written), Adam Roberts (read Salt or Stone), Vernor Vinge. The top ten failed to mention earlier giants such as the Science Fantasy of Jack Vance and the beauty of Ursula le Guin.
Posted by: Simon3 12 May 2010
Le Guinn??
How can you omit ULG? Whether you like her version of SFor not - she can actually *write" (got that Isaac?)! This fact renders your analysis completly void!
Posted by: Dan 12 May 2010
Complete pants
What a crock of complete rubbish. Harlan who? FFS. I have over 2,000 sci-fi books at home and I've never heard of him. You've missed out Niven, Pournell, Anderson, Hamilton....(the list goes on). Verne? Clarke? Banks? Come on. Verne's output was pitiful (he wrote one sci-fi novel) and poorly written despite being inventive. Clarke's stories are childish and badly presented and have limited creativity. Banks' sci-fi output is awful when compared to his non sci-fi works - boring and static, his sci-fi books are easily discarded. Roddenberry?? Have you guys even read the original Star Trek? OMG...it's awful. Wonderfully inventive but so badly written with cardboard characters and awful story lines. And as for Stross....Accelerando was ok but to put him in the top ten instead of Niven or Pournell is just a travesty. And whilst we're at it, what about Asher? Asher's writing is wonderfully creative and beatifully crafted. His worlds come to life and his characters have real depth. You've missed out Morgan as well. Takeshi Kovacs is easily one of the greatest characters in modern sci-fi. Boys, you obviously don't know what you're talking about. You've nailed it with Heinlein, Stephenson and Gibson but otherwise you're doing nothing more than demonstrating the limits of your knowledge. Move on to the next screen (as Tak would say)
Posted by: Jon 12 May 2010
Strange writing in a strange article
Frank Herbert, Alfred Bester, Phillip K. Dick: missing giants. Kudos for including Jules Verne and H.G. Wells. Why Douglas Adams? Why Charles Stross? How about an article on most influential science-fiction regardless of format? That would include films and tv series.It would speak to the enduring impact within people's minds that in turn impacts subsequent books and movies. Let's talk about the enduring glow of inspiration.
Posted by: Wade 12 May 2010
No Silverberg?
Although already mentioned by other commenters, a really major omission, not just for his ideas and storylines, but his superb writing style. Plenty of other names to throw in: Spinrad, Rutherford, Herbert, Moorcock, Disch, Dick, Zelazny, Le Guin, Aldiss, Niven, Haldeman and many, many more coudl easily be thrown into the hat. Also why not look outside adult literature? How many kids did Andre Norton get hooked on SF for instance? Adams is too high on the list for someone who mainly focuses on the comedic side of writing as that is not to everyone's taste (I write this as a huge fan of Adams, especially being from the UK as his humour is more easily appreciated here than in some other countries due to the cultural context). I also love Banks (again cultural to some extent & a huge fan of his non SF work too) - including having lots of signed copies of his books from UK book signings... But would say he too is ranked too high (I think the list suffers a bit too much from "over egging" some authors of the last couple of decades). I would say a better approach may be to split the SF "best of" into "eras" to address biases (that in many cases will be due to lack of familiarity with various others as it is always hard to get to grips with books from before the "era" you grew up with)
Posted by: DaveC 12 May 2010
Are you kidding? Seriously...?
Where is Dick with his dark views on existence and its inherent entropy-like schizophrenia? And Lem - with his unfriendly and man-incomprehensible universe? And where's Dan Simmons?
Posted by: Sambucus Nigra 12 May 2010
P.S.
P.S. WHERE is Frank Herbert???????????????????????
Posted by: Sambucus Nigra 12 May 2010
Most famous? Yes. Best? Not really.
While all of these are big names, none of them really compare to Robert Reed, Dan Simmons, or PKD. I'll accept that the PKD thing was just an oversight, but the list seems to have been chosen based on fame rather than actual quality.
Posted by: Greg 12 May 2010
Almost worried
I thought at first you were about to leave my favourite out - A.C. Clarke. But there he was at number one! Nice. Has anyone noticed that his best work - 'Childhood's End' has never been made into a film or series? Seemingly he refused all attempts of directors trying to make it without him be given executive directorship. Maybe his family will? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childhood%27s_End
Posted by: Stuart Halliday 12 May 2010
All men
Did anyone compiling this list notice that all the nominees and selectors were men?
Posted by: Gavin Wilson 11 May 2010
V3 response
Thanks for the great comments and suggestions everyone, my library card will be getting good use in the coming weeks. Mike: funny you mention that. We were seriously considering expanding the list and had travel demands not gotten in the way it's likely that we would have posted an annotated top 25 over the weekend with many of the names that have been listed. I have to say for that reason this might have been the toughest list we've done yet. drxray: Good catch on Bradbury. Every time we do a list like this there's a palpable sense of dread that we're omitting someone very important. Obviously PKD was one we missed, as was Bradbury. Ernie Burns: Read over the list again. Heinlein, Clarke and Assimov are all amongst our top 10.
Posted by: Shaun Nichols 11 May 2010
first gents of sci-fy
Isaac Assimov , Robert A Heinlein , and Arthur C Clarke were giants who just about coined the term sci-fy, leaving them out is more then just a screw up. shame on the both of ya.....
Posted by: Brian 11 May 2010
Not good enough
An inadequate listing, ignoring writers like these that follow. First 4 are a deserving list but what about Larry Niven RINGWORLD is a tour de force, he would outwrite Roddenberry any day. Star Trek is OK entertainment but pretty lame SF. Brian Aldiss, Greg Benford, Zimmer Bradley, Frank Herbert, Lem as mentioned, CS Lewis, Alice Norton, Pournelle, Carl Sagan, Simak, van Vogt, Vonnegut hmmm maybe not true SF, but Ian Watson!, John Wyndham, Zelazny See you'll have to increase it to twenty.
Posted by: Mike 10 May 2010
Ray Bradbury
Ray Bradbury anyone?
Posted by: drxray 10 May 2010
Overall the list is okay
Yes, I know you two had a tough time getting it down to 10 people. I think that omitting Roger Zelazny was a mistake. He was a far better writer than some of your picks. You might categorize him more as a fantasy writer than science fiction, but "Lord of Light" would prove you wrong. He was an excellent short story writer as "The Last Defender of Camelot" anthology proves. His style made him unique in the field. He also died young of lung cancer and he seemed a rather nice person the one time I met him. His works will probably last the test of time. Both he and Clarke have recently been republished here in the States it seems.
Posted by: John Moore 10 May 2010
Top 10 SF writers
A brilliant article but I was surprised not to see Robert Silverberg make the list...
Posted by: Kevin Casey 10 May 2010
Its just wrong.
Nearly leaving out Philip K Dick is in fact unforgivable. Where are Robert A Heinlein, John Wyndham or Arthur C Clarke? Isaac Assimov? James Blish? And please - a plug for Star Trek? OK the commitment to make it technically possible is laudable, but, dramatically plausible? Star Trek is a soap opera that just happens to take place in space.
Posted by: Ernie Burns 10 May 2010
Oh no.....
Wot no Frank Herbert! Noooooooo!!!
Posted by: Furbian 09 May 2010
Lem
This article reveals how provincial your Anglo-Saxon world is. Number one by far is Stanislaw Lem, a Polish sci-fi writer (author of "Solaris" among other things, if it does ring a bell). Not to mention other European authors, like the Strugatskiy brothers from Russia...
Posted by: Bernau 08 May 2010
I was about to winge that you forgot PKD
No Phillip K Dick, but you got him in the revision, so I will forgive you.
Posted by: k'd cowan 08 May 2010