08 Sep 2005
Technology analysts have reacted unfavourably to the newly launched iTunes equipped Motorola Rokr mobile phone.
The handset is available now in the US from Cingular at $249.99 with a two-year contract. It is scheduled for release in the rest of the world later this year.
Ralph de la Vega, chief operating officer at Cingular, told vnunet.com that the operator is selling the device without any subsidy.
It is uncommon for US operators not to offer rebates on their handsets. The idea behind selling the equipment at a discount is to attract consumers and make up the losses through monthly subscriptions.
"[Cingular, Apple and Motorola] have deluded themselves into thinking that this is such a hot product. When people look into the features, they will find out that it is not that great," said Ken Dulaney, vice president of mobile and wireless at analyst firm Gartner.
"The linking of the phone to iTunes is the sexy part. But the implementation sounds a little weak to me."
At $249.99, the device is priced similarly to smartphones. Cingular sells only two phones on its website that are more expensive than the Rokr: the PalmOne Treo 650 and the Siemens SX66, a Windows powered smartphone with built in Wi-Fi support.
"Cingular pretty much collapsed its market right there," said Dulaney in reference to the price, adding that the device primarily targets teenagers and children who are unable to afford it.
The Rokr caps the number of songs that the owner can play at 100. Although the included memory chip can be replaced with a larger version, the software will not support the additional songs.
Gerry Purdy, principal analyst at MobileTrax, agreed that the limited storage size is a setback, pointing out that a standard mobile music player today holds at least 1,000 songs.
"One hundred tunes seems minuscule when the standard minimum today is 1,000. If you buy the phone as your primary music player, you will be disappointed," he told vnunet.com.
Purdy expects that Motorola and Apple over time will increase the number of songs that the phone stores.
Consumers looking to play digital music on their mobile phones today are better off buying a phone that runs Windows Mobile, according to Dulaney, because they do not limit the number of songs that can be played.
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cingluar is just mad
now quite frankly i beleave that this is a cop out. on cingulars part they make great money selling ringtones and things of that nature and if you were able to down load your own full length versions of them from your personal libary why not save that money. some cellular phone companys charge as much as $2.50 for a ring tone thats only part of the song when you can get a new motarola for $299.00 and get great high quality music from apple. Or from your own personal libary. and the man above me with the flash idea hes got it right...
Posted by: jeremiah johnson 13 Sep 2005
misinformed?
This is a quote from a person who just purchased the phone. "you can buy those 512 mb memory chips extra at Cingular for $69.95, and as easy as they are to swap, you can have rock on one chip, classical on another, audio books on another, comedy on another and so on. So, in effect you can play different music and swap it for another and listen to different music as long as you can keep a charge. No 100 song limit here!"
Posted by: dggraphics 09 Sep 2005
huh?
Who would buy a phone as their primary music device! I know I change phones almost yearly, and maybe I'm the exception, but an iPod, even a shuffle, is something you can use for some indefinite period of time. What happens to this phone when you stop using the provider or move to a new provider? Are you going to carry it around anyway as a psudeo iPod? The whole idea is just silly! Hell phones are STILL hard enough to use and STILL can't keep a signal. How about the handset makers focus on that one! heh?
Posted by: Jeff Gagne 09 Sep 2005
So agree...
http://blogs.conchango.com/kenibarwick/archive/2005/09/08/2135.aspx
Posted by: Keni Barwick 08 Sep 2005
Getting Thinner and Thinner
"[Cingular, Apple and Motorola] have diluted themselves into thinking that this is such a hot product." ------------------------ Maybe "Cingular, Apple and Motorola" are on the atkins diet and are 'diluting' themselves, but I think the author is 'deluding' himself if he thinks he's used the correct word.
Posted by: Allan G. 08 Sep 2005
agreed.
There is nothing special about this phone. hell, you can get nokia's 3300 (a few years old) that was built for music (and more i might add, with its full size keyboard). Plus, why would you want to pay an EXTRA dollar (plus cingular's poorly priced GPRS data transfer fees) for a song on your phone, when you can just hook it up to your laptop, and buy a song at the normal .99. There is no advantage to this phone. you pay 249 plus contract for a button with a music note on it. Think again moto.
Posted by: Shon 08 Sep 2005
Weak Sauce!
Phone is weak, just like Cingular reception here in Southern California. I speak from experience! Had ATT, Cingular (before Att/Cingular merger) and Verizon all within 1 yr and Verizon was the best reception. Do yourself a favor and get a 6GB iPod for $250
Posted by: MightyMike 08 Sep 2005
Windows Mobile?
You forget, you can play songs directly on treos also. Whats more fun, you can download those songs (in mp3 format) right from Itunes, (with MissingSync on the mac) or simply mount the SD card and transfer the songs on a mac or windows. Also, no limit on the number of songs. Find me as full a featured phone as the treo, at the same size with keyboard, and I might consider it. Perhaps when the WinMobile 670 comes out, it might be worthwhile to look at. Someone is too *WinCentric* here in making a comment like that. (and maybe a bit apple envious)
Posted by: RKW 08 Sep 2005
excellent
last week it was the google backlash. bring on apple for a spanking, why not.
Posted by: johnnyn 08 Sep 2005
Get a DICTIONARY
"[Cingular, Apple and Motorola] have diluted themselves into thinking that this is such a hot product. When people look into the features, they will find out that it is not that great," diluted? DILUTED? DILUTED is when something has been mixed with another substance (eg water) to decrease it's concentration. don't you mean DELUDED? Jeez. Nice to see that writers don't have to have any grip of language these days.
Posted by: Eric 08 Sep 2005
Diluted?
>>"[Cingular, Apple and Motorola] have diluted themselves into thinking that this is such a hot product. When people look into the features, they will find out that it is not that great," said Ken Dulaney, vice president of mobile and wireless at analyst firm Gartner.<< I'm presuming the word he's thinking of is "deluded" - perhaps you could get your sub-editors to fix this to make him look less stoopid... Ken Glasgow
Posted by: Ken Seaton 08 Sep 2005