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08 May 2010, Shaun Nichols , V3
We're going to get hammered on this one. Nothing divides science fiction (SF) fans like the best authors. Nevertheless, Shaun and I have put on our thickest skins and decided to give it a shot. Buckle in, because this is going to be our longest Top 10 ever.
SF writers have played a key role in inspiring research and eventual technological development. There have been numerous devices that existed in the mind of an SF writer before they even made it into the engineering departments, but more importantly a good story can inspire something entirely new. This is why if you find a computer geek you've almost inevitably got an SF fan on your hands.
One thing you won't find on the list is anything from the realms of fantasy. Fantasy books often get lumped in with SF and it's more than a little irritating. SF deals with the possible and sets specific constraints on the writer. Fantasy, to my mind, is just an excuse to develop alternative realities with no reference to the real world.
There were a lot of names that didn't make it onto the list. As I'll mention later, I would have liked to see Rob Grant and Doug Naylor for their creation of Red Dwarf. Roger Zelazny would also be on my list, as would Olaf Stapledon, Harry Harrison, Orson Scott Card and Jerry Pournell. Shaun too had a list as long as his arm, but we had to make the cuts somewhere and it was very hard.
[Update - 12 hours later] OK, before you write in we did make one glaring error: no Philip K Dick. Neither Shaun and I are particular fans of his work but the man's contribution is undeniable. I'd put him in around number five - Shaun may disagree - so we'll publish a video next week to apologise and discuss.]
All Top 10 lists will be subjective by nature, but this is one that will no doubt stir up a lot of feeling about who is and isn't on the list, mostly angry feelings, I imagine. As always, we welcome comments about who we missed and what it says about our mental capacity. Just try to leave our mums out of it this time (Mother's Day is coming up, after all).
Honourable
Mention: Gene Roddenberry
Shaun Nichols: I had a long and contentious battle with Iain
over whether to include television and movie writers on the list. Among the
names to get axed were Joss Whedon, the Wachowski siblings and the team of Rob
Grant and Doug Naylor.
One name that I stood fast on, however, was Gene Roddenberry. Faced with my own compelling arguments (and the threat of an army of angry Trekkies laying siege to the site) Iain relented and Roddenberry was made an Honourable Mention.
A former Los Angeles police officer, Roddenberry wrote the original Star Trek series and played a key role in the development of its many movie adaptations and spin-offs.
The result was the establishment of a sub-culture devoted to the Star Trek universe and Roddenberry's establishment as a geek icon.
Iain Thomson: I still think this should have gone to the boys from Red Dwarf. Star Trek wasn't that good, after all. The first series was more of a western in space that displayed some of the worst of Hollywood's costume designs while giving William Shatner an excuse to snog aliens, so long as they were humanoid enough.
Don't even get me started on the endless Next Generation spin-offs, which were yet another flaw in the space/time continuum episodes that repeat endlessly today.
Nevertheless, Roddenberry deserves kudos for his gift to the genre of SF. Star Trek has inspired millions to the ideas behind good SF, even if some of the show's followers are a few flying buttresses short of a cathedral.
You only have to look at the way an entire subculture has built up around the show to see its power. There are now more speakers of Klingon than some native American languages, and university courses are devoted to the study of the show's themes, although one suspects that the graduates of such a course can be seen asking if you want fries with that.
Roddenberry also scripted, and fought to retain, the first black female actor in a serious prime time role (even if the women's costumes were about as practical as a chocolate teapot) and also came up with, or at least popularised, some ideas that have inspired the real world.
I suspect that the inventors of automatic doors, clamshell mobile phones and wearable microphones all have a debt to pay to the show.
Honourable
Mention: Charles Stross
Iain Thomson: I was handed a copy of Charles Stross's
Glasshouse after a particularly good dinner in Putney, and picked it up
the next day to distract me from my crushing hangover.
By page 50 the headache was forgotten and I was getting the same 'hairs up on the back of the neck' feeling I'd had when Neuromancer first seared its way into my consciousness.
Stross is one of those new writers who really gives me hope for the field of SF. He takes concepts and stretches them in new and unusual ways to make you really think about what you're reading.
What would be the effect of a worm on a society based on online personae? How much would an imprisoned society give, wittingly or otherwise, for material paradise, and what would it cost? Stross even takes on the hallowed world of Roger Zelazny's Amber epic and gives it a tech fix.
He also has that great writer's talent of the opening line that sucks you in whether you like it or not. Iain Banks set the bar high with It was the day my grandmother exploded and I'm still fond of George Orwell's It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen.
But for a SF novel The day war was declared, a rain of telephones fell clattering to the cobblestones from the skies above Novy Petrograd takes some beating.
If he doesn't work himself into an early grave, I suspect Stross will become one of the greats of the genre. He understands the hard and soft aspects of technology, has a swarm of interesting ideas and is mature enough to sort out the fads from the fictionally realistic. British SF has a bright future with people like this at the helm.
Shaun Nichols: One of the reasons I was secretly dreading this list was that I knew that, by the end of it, I would have a huge list of books to hunt down and purchase. We are not even out of the honourable mentions and I've already got a sizeable list going just from the works of Stross.
Not every SF author has a great love for technology. I suspect this is in part why we have so many works in the genre that deal with the horrors that we will bring upon ourselves through perceived scientific progress.
Stross, however, has a great interest in technology and the chops to back it up. He has a degree in computer science and for a time wrote a column on Linux, while maintaining an excellent blog and releasing some work under Creative Commons.
As Iain noted, Stross is a relative newcomer to the genre, but his ability to craft a story, coupled with a prodigious knack for churning out copy, leaves me optimistic that great works of SF will be coming for some time.
So far, Stross has shown incredible promise as an author and I hope to be shelling out cash for his books for some time.
10.
Iain M. Banks
Iain Thomson: Iain Banks leads a dual life. By day he's a
writer of darkly funny mainstream fiction with classics such as The Crow
Road and Complicity under his belt. By night, under the name Iain
M. Banks, he writes some of the best SF you'll find on bookshelves today.
Most of his SF output takes place in the Culture universe, a polyglot society of roughly humanoid ancestry tens of thousands of years ahead of today. It's a society where computer and human minds meld, where technology comes close to magic and yet the same old human (and alien) concerns come to the fore.
He's also beloved among British SF readers for his past conduct of coming to conventions, getting absolutely bladdered and then trying to climb things - stages, bar tops and even hotel buildings. All too often SF writers are quiet sorts and it's nice to see an Oliver Reed character slipping into the profession.
Banks combines a wicked love of language and satire with a social perspective that deals with everyday concerns on a galactic basis. I'm sure some of his detractors would like to see him burned at a stake, but I suspect he wears that with pride.
Shaun Nichols: One of the great things about SF is that the author can pretty much create an entire universe free of the historical or logical constraints that limit other genres.
An historical fiction author can't give Henry VIII a hovercraft mounted with dual chainguns, and a mystery writer can't make the killer in his story a synthetic parasite controlled by the resurrected brain of a ruthless dictator. SF writers, however, have the ability to work free from such limits if they are imaginative enough.
Banks is a great example of this. He constructs an alternative reality where the story can be told without the reader doubting its feasibility. The Culture universe operates without any of the limitations one would have to assume if the story were to take place on this planet or even with this species.
It is also refreshing to see a writer that enjoys a drink or three and likes fast cars like a normal person. It sometimes seems that SF writers are almost always crushingly dull in person or accompanied by personality quirks that make you a bit afraid to ever consider associating with them.
9.
H G Wells
Shaun Nichols: Apologies to the late H G Wells for leaving him
so far down the list, but in our case he's a bit of a victim of the times.
While his works were hugely influential and are still popular, they were written decades before Iain or myself were born. They are still excellent works and highly recommended reads, but the passing of time has pushed Wells down on the list.
That said, let's rattle off a few of his achievements. Among his works are The Time Machine and The War of the Worlds, two of the most famous SF works ever. Wells is also remembered for his social and political efforts, most notably his advocacy of the League of Nations.
Iain Thomson: I too would have liked to see Wells higher on the list but the competition was fierce.
Some compare Wells to Jules Verne, but Wells's Victorian background and industrial slant give him an individual air that makes him a completely different read. He was relatively scientifically literate and used the emerging technologies of his day to extrapolate on the present and future state of society.
Works such as The Time Machine, The Invisible Man and The War of the Worlds, which dealt with the fields of physics, chemistry and biology respectively, are still watched and reworked today, with varying degrees of success.
Some of his future history work was scarily on the ball too, although his belief in a single world government and the triumph of the egalitarian culture as the future of mankind have yet to come anywhere close to reality.
His fiction has also inspired the creators of the orbital rocket and fusion bomb. In the latter case he was less than enthralled. A devout pacifist he had envisaged that nuclear weapons would make war impossible, but when he died in 1946 the reverse was becoming the case. He said his epitaph should say: 'I told you so. You damned fools.'
8.
William Gibson
Iain Thomson: The best SF can open your mind to totally new
ideas. Given that Gibson's debut novel was published in 1984, the author was not
only far-sighted, but way ahead of the game in terms of what this new technology
would mean.
Barely a year after IBM introduced its first PC, Gibson described the future of online communications and the story potential of artificial intelligence in such an environment.
It was a mental leap that left the rest of the SF world scrambling to catch up. Gibson's style and subject unleashed a whole new form of SF onto the market in the form of 'cyberpunk'. He mixed in genetic engineering, advanced data mining and the concept of the electronic persona made real.
Gibson also came up with one of the most enduring images of the internet age, that of data passing though a world's cables and being transmogrified into patterns of light.
This mental leap allowed the easy visualisation of the entire internet; it was about data that the new future would be made. It is an image that persists to this day. Sure, other SF writers had used the concept but none had enunciated it so clearly.
In truth, Gibson has gone off the boil a little in later years. That original flash of brilliance extended to his first few books but lately, in my opinion, he's been rehashing mental zeitgeists and living off his reputation.
He has, however, also done some brilliant journalism, and anyone visiting Singapore should read his account of Disneyland with the Death Penalty. I'll read everything he writes for those beautiful concepts that come every chapter or so, but I've yet to see anything to match his early work.
Shaun Nichols: I think part of the reason why some SF fans have been turned off by Gibson's recent work is that it deals with a very near future, or even the present day.
As I mentioned earlier, so much of the appeal of SF is that it can be set far enough in the future that any sort of environment the author wants to create is possible. Gibson's recent books don't take that liberty, so the reader isn't presented with the fantastic imagery that works such as Neuromancer were able to present.
I happen to like it. Works such as Pattern Recognition and Spook Country work within our current worlds and technologies while still creating a great story and exploring fascinating possibilities. Some would argue that they aren't true SF, but I'm a big fan.
His earlier work, of course, needs little introduction. Neuromancer and its sequels were monumental in the genre and, while the future Gibson portrayed doesn't quite look to be working out, the early concept of the internet was fairly close and did after all coin the term 'cyberspace'. All in all, Gibson has helped to revolutionise the genre and, if his recent works are any indication, he's far from finished.
7.
Neal Stephenson
Shaun Nichols: Many SF writers are deceptively low-tech.
William Gibson famously wrote Neuromancer on a 1920's manual
typewriter, while Gene Roddenberry spent more of his life walking a police beat
than behind a keyboard, and even Harlan Ellison has long expressed a distaste
for computers. Neal Stephenson, however, is one writer who can safely say he
out-geeks most of his readers.
The son of an electrical engineer and a biophysicist, Stephenson has had a long-running interest in technology and it shows in his work. Stephenson's novels reach heavily into emerging technologies and cutting edge fields such as nanotechnology and cryptography.
He also can lay something of a claim to having inspired online 3D communities. In his novel Snow Crash, Stephenson describes a future internet which is fully 3D and navigated by users in the form of 3D avatars. It's no wonder that he's particularly beloved among Second Life enthusiasts.
Iain Thomson: I once heard of a director in a Silicon Valley startup who was at a board meeting when the chief executive came in, slapped a copy of Snow Crash on the table and announced that this was the company's business plan. Needless to say, the company crashed and burned, but the book came at just the right time when internet fever was growing.
While Stephenson's earlier work, particularly Zodiac, is more scientific than technical he hit his SF form with Snow Crash and followed through in 1995 with Diamond Age, a brilliant examination of nanotechnology and the way society, commerce and computing systems will be changed by new technology.
Cryptomonicon gave a similar treatment to the science of encryption and contains one of the most heartbreakingly sweet portrayals of Alan Turing in fiction.
Now that he's so successful we're getting ever longer tomes from the man; his last trilogy had to be split into eight books because it was so long. He's also taken to inventing an entirely new vocabulary in one book, which is impressive but irritating to read. It's also got to be said that, as a writer, he really sucks at endings. Nevertheless, I highly recommend him.
6.
Robert Heinlein
Iain Thomson: Hand on heart, I think Starship
Troopers is a work of satirical genius and that Stranger in a Strange
Land should be required reading for any writer. For those two books alone,
Heinlein deserves his spot on the list.
Heinlein was something of an enigma, and had elements of exceedingly liberal and conservative viewpoints in his fiction. His was a US Navy officer and Cold War hawk, as well as a campaigner for the socialist End Poverty in California movement earlier in life. He was also one of the first SF writers to include strong, intelligent female characters as a matter of course, putting him well ahead of his peers.
One of the real strengths of Heinlein's work was that he managed to interweave science and story successfully. Too much early SF was about transposing standard plots onto other worlds using technology. Heinlein made technology essential to the plot and true to scientific principles, but at the same time integrated it in such a run-of-the-mill way that it didn't dominate.
Heinlein was also part of a cadre of SF writers who got together in the latter stages of the Cold War to think up new weapons systems of the future. He had a major falling out with Arthur C Clarke over the proposed Star Wars missile defence shield, which the US is still spending billions of dollars trying to make work.
Heinlein saw it as essential and workable, Clarke felt that it was doomed to failure and would make the world less safe. They reconciled before Heinlein's death in 1988, but his ideas still have a direct impact on the modern political landscape.
Shaun Nichols: Heinlein, along with Clarke and Isaac Asimov, form a powerful trio of minds who helped to create and popularise the SF genre as we know it. In addition to excellent stories, Heinlein contributed the idea that you can make a poignant social and political commentary while still telling a great story.
Starship Troopers sometimes gets knocked for promoting militarism but, given the time and culture in which it was written, the work was fairly run-of-the-mill and indicative of the Cold War climate and thinking.
With the Red Scare raging and politicians laying on the propaganda heavy, it was really a pretty tame work, all things considered. Yes, it may at times read like a Bill O'Reilly monologue, but all-in-all it's a great work.
And Heinlein is hardly the only SF writer to have been a polarising figure outside his work. H G Wells was extremely active in left-wing causes and was an early proponent of the League of Nations.
As Iain mentioned, Heinlein was at odds with Clarke over the Star Wars system, but what really matters in the end was that all three were great storytellers.
5.
Harlan Ellison
Shaun Nichols: While he's known for his work across multiple
genres, Ellison's work has been particularly influential in the SF world.
Stories such as I have no mouth and I must scream and Repent Harlequin said the Tick-Tock Man are long-running favourites in the SF community, and Ellison contributed scripts for SF television programmes such as Star Trek and The Outer Limits.
Ellison's greatest contribution to the genre, however, is cultural. In the changing climates of the 1960s and early 1970s, Ellison wrote, and inspired other authors to write, stories that pushed the boundaries of SF.
His dark, edgy works helped pave the way for contemporary SF styles such as cyberpunk, and helped the genre mature and adapt to changing attitudes.
Iain Thomson: As Shaun points out, Ellison has been critical in nu rturing the second wave of SF in the late sixties and seventies. His Dangerous Visions series helped foster an entirely new wave of SF that moved it from antiseptic futures full of clean machines, to dark nightmare cities populated by cruel and brilliant species.
Ellison himself is, by most accounts, a bit of a git in person. The first time he met Issac Asimov he asked him repeatedly if he really was the Asimov. The man replied that he was, and Ellison looked at him for a second and said "You're not that much," and stalked off.
The diminutive writer is also fiercely protective of his ideas and byline, and has roasted the toes of many a corporate executive who thought he or she could pull one over on him.
Ellison, and others like him, took SF from the speculative to the real world, and focused on its ability to extend and magnify the reach and actions of mankind, not always for the better.
No clean uniforms and universal replicators for Ellison's characters. Just gritty fights for survival and success in worlds that mankind is better off not trying.
4.
Isaac Asimov
Iain Thomson: I argued against including Asimov on the list
because, as we had him on last week's
Top
10 science and technology writers list, Clarke should have been on there as
well. Nevertheless, Shaun's a huge fan and beat me down over time.
Asimov wrote some great SF to be sure. The Robot stories were light years ahead of their time in terms of understanding the thinking behind artificial intelligence (AI) programming and the consequences of getting it wrong.
Some of the early Robot short stories should be required reading on any programming course as illustrations of the dangers of poor logic loops. He was also prescient in seeing the problems that man would have with humanoid robots and advanced AI systems.
The Foundation series was also key to the development of SF that dealt with the way technology is integrated into the long-term futures of society. The concepts of psycho-history and the role of technology in a society's ability to control others were far-sighted and have relevance today. The first three are also a cracking good read, and are short enough to be easily disgestible.
Asimov was a master of the craft, but I can't help feeling he was a scientist who happened to be a writer rather than a writer who dreamed about science.
Shaun Nichols: Whether he's a scientist or a writer is of little consequence. The important thing was that the man penned some of the greatest works of SF ever. He's also the only person to make our list as a science writer and science fiction author.
Asimov is best known for his Robot series of books. At a time when the semiconductor industry was in its infancy and computers were still the size of rooms, Asimov was able to conceptualise things such as AI and advanced robotics on a level that the rest of the world would only begin to consider decades later.
He also helped to inspire an entire generation of successors. Countless SF writers and fans have cited Asimov's works as among their first encounters with the genre, and more than a few novels borrow heavily on his ideas.
Though much of Asimov's non-fiction science writings looked to inspire young people to enter the field, it's his fiction that ultimately seems to have had the greatest impact on young minds.
3.
Douglas Adams
Shaun Nichols: If you're a geek, Douglas Adams is a bit like
chocolate. Any time you run into someone who doesn't like him, you're absolutely
dumbfounded with the idea that anyone could find his work anything short of
divine.
Adams thrived because he mixed a great sense of humour into his work. Starting as a television writer and making a brief appearance on Monty Python's Flying Circus, Adams was later employed to write a radio series for the BBC. What followed was one of the most beloved works of SF in the past half century.
That series was, of course, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and it was so successful that it has been adapted to nearly every form of mass media. The series has been remade as a book, a television mini-series, a movie and a computer game.
Aside from keeping the audience laughing the entire way through, Hitchhiker brought a magnificent sense of adventure and poignant social satire. Anyone who has ever had to pay a visit to a government office can appreciate the plight of the Vogons, for example.
Iain Thomson: Many people of my generation know what they were doing the day John Lennon died. For our parents it was Kennedy's assassination, but hearing the news that Douglas Adams had died really stopped my clock for a second. To go so tragically young, and in such a pointless way (suffering a heart attack in a gym) was a tragedy.
Adams did for SF what Monty Python did for comedy: underwrote an entire generation with a line of talent. Hitchhiker was a revelation and news spread like wildfire that something entirely new was out.
I suspect I've still got the C90 cassettes of the radio show somewhere, and my first edition of the book is sitting, battered but still occasionally returned to, on my bookshelf.
But there was a serious point behind Adams's humour in a lot of cases. He used SF to point a finger of fun at much in modern society as well as the conventions of SF in general. Marvin the Paranoid Android is the perfect foil to HAL or Robbie the Robot, while the Nutrimatic Drinks Dispenser is a work of dark comic genius.
His later works, and the Dirk Gently series, continued to win him more fans and he's certainly one of the most influential SF writer of the past 20 years.
2.
Jules Verne
Iain Thomson: If you're talking about strict SF, Verne is the
one that really kicked it all off. While you can argue that Gulliver's
Travels or even Arabian Nights is SF, to my mind you have to have
science before you have SF.
Verne was a child of the industrial revolution and took technology and wrote it into stories that inspired generations. As someone writing at the dawn of modern science, he was well placed to apply modern reasoning and learning to fictional formats.
Verne's writings predicted a host of inventions, including everything from air conditioning to helicopters. Many of these were foreseeable - Leonardo da Vinci had envisaged helicopters hundreds of years before - but many were fantastic in the minds of his readers. Some of his writing was also prescient. One story involved three astronauts launched from southern Florida in a capsule that splashes back to Earth.
Verne mixed with some of the finest French writers and is still honoured in as one of the country's literary greats. But the French always did have the excellent knack of recognising great writers.
Shaun Nichols: France may have the edge when it comes to writers, fashion, food and art, but at least you Brits still have comedy. I mean, really, Jerry Lewis? Plus the whole not-surrendering-to-Germany thing should be a nice feather in your cap.
Verne was not only a great author, but an incredible visionary when you look at the time in which he crafted his works. When Verne wrote his greatest novels there were no aeroplanes, deep-sea vessels or rocket technology. Yet he still wrote stories such as Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea, From the Earth to the Moon and Around the World in 80 Days. Amazing when you think about it.
You also have to wonder just how intimately Verne is connected to some of the great achievements of the 20th century. Certainly he inspired more than a few people to take up science as a profession, but how driven would we have been to make achievements such as the Moon landing or deep sea exploration had Verne not had our imaginations mulling over that possibility for several decades?
At the very least, Verne is to be credited as the father of SF. At the very most, he can also be credited with helping to inspire some of the biggest breakthroughs of science in the 20th century.
1.
Arthur C Clarke
Shaun Nichols: Considered a pillar of the genre, Sir Arthur C
Clarke is in the top spots of just about every list like this.
Best known for writing 2001: A Space Odyssey, Clarke penned a number of other iconic works of SF that entertained and inspired millions, dealing almost exclusively in hardcore SF.
One of the great things about SF is its ability to examine many of the basic characteristics and behaviours of mankind without the constraints or biases of our current society. The most popular question asked by SF authors is 'What makes us human?', a query that Clarke regularly made with his most popular works.
Another great element of Clarke's work is the use of fantastic, larger than life images. He has a flair for crafting stories in which the entire world seems to change dramatically. To conjure up the images Clarke required an amazing imagination, and to clearly convey them required an even more amazing writing skill.
Iain Thomson: Writing Clarke's obituary was a grim task. The man was so influential in SF and had lasted so long, that you suspected he'd stumbled across some secret elixir of life.
For anyone growing up in the latter half of the 20th century he was the man of popular science. His ideas, like the communications satellite, revolutionised our world and he was on hand to lend an opinion on everything from the Apollo launches to the possibility of the existence of Bigfoot. He also devised his famous three laws:
1. When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is probably wrong.
2. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
3. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Clarke had a mind that could encompass the galaxy and he used tried and tested science and built it into story lines so that it was central to the plot but not overwhelmingly so.
I can well remember sitting under the covers with a torch reading Summertime on Icarus and realising that you could build a gripping story around low gravity transportation. He was also not above humour, ending one story with a line about a 'star-mangled spanner'.
Clarke's work has dated rather well, not least because he updated everything. In latter years he did too many weak co-written books (and a few good ones) but pick up almost any of his great works and you can relax in the hands of a master.
Do you agree?
PeterHamilton
Not having Peter Hamilton anywhere in the list is just plain silly. One of the best writers of all time - he just happens to be still alive....
Posted by Alan Sharkey, 12 May 2010
Lester Del Ray?
The old stuff buried in the back of the Library that got us hooked to begin with.
Posted by Bill Stadler, 12 May 2010
Not good enough
An inadequate listing, ignoring writers like these that follow. First 4 are a deserving list but what about Larry Niven RINGWORLD is a tour de force, he would outwrite Roddenberry any day. Star Trek is OK entertainment but pretty lame SF. Brian Aldiss, Greg Benford, Zimmer Bradley, Frank Herbert, Lem as mentioned, CS Lewis, Alice Norton, Pournelle, Carl Sagan, Simak, van Vogt, Vonnegut hmmm maybe not true SF, but Ian Watson!, John Wyndham, Zelazny See you'll have to increase it to twenty.
Posted by Mike, 10 May 2010
Lem
This article reveals how provincial your Anglo-Saxon world is. Number one by far is Stanislaw Lem, a Polish sci-fi writer (author of "Solaris" among other things, if it does ring a bell). Not to mention other European authors, like the Strugatskiy brothers from Russia...
Posted by Bernau, 08 May 2010
I was about to winge that you forgot PKD
No Phillip K Dick, but you got him in the revision, so I will forgive you.
Posted by k'd cowan, 08 May 2010
Ray Bradbury
Ray Bradbury anyone?
Posted by drxray, 10 May 2010
Oh no.....
Wot no Frank Herbert!
Noooooooo!!!
Posted by Furbian, 09 May 2010
Overall the list is okay
Yes, I know you two had a tough time getting it down to 10 people. I think that omitting Roger Zelazny was a mistake. He was a far better writer than some of your picks. You might categorize him more as a fantasy writer than science fiction, but "Lord of Light" would prove you wrong. He was an excellent short story writer as "The Last Defender of Camelot" anthology proves. His style made him unique in the field. He also died young of lung cancer and he seemed a rather nice person the one time I met him. His works will probably last the test of time. Both he and Clarke have recently been republished here in the States it seems.
Posted by John Moore, 10 May 2010
Top 10 SF writers
A brilliant article but I was surprised not to see Robert Silverberg make the list...
Posted by Kevin Casey, 10 May 2010
Its just wrong.
Nearly leaving out Philip K Dick is in fact unforgivable. Where are Robert A Heinlein, John Wyndham or Arthur C Clarke? Isaac Assimov? James Blish? And please - a plug for Star Trek? OK the commitment to make it technically possible is laudable, but, dramatically plausible? Star Trek is a soap opera that just happens to take place in space.
Posted by Ernie Burns, 10 May 2010
All men
Did anyone compiling this list notice that all the nominees and selectors were men?
Posted by Gavin Wilson, 11 May 2010
V3 response
Thanks for the great comments and suggestions everyone, my library card will be getting good use in the coming weeks.
Mike: funny you mention that. We were seriously considering expanding the list and had travel demands not gotten in the way it's likely that we would have posted an annotated top 25 over the weekend with many of the names that have been listed. I have to say for that reason this might have been the toughest list we've done yet.
drxray: Good catch on Bradbury. Every time we do a list like this there's a palpable sense of dread that we're omitting someone very important. Obviously PKD was one we missed, as was Bradbury.
Ernie Burns: Read over the list again. Heinlein, Clarke and Assimov are all amongst our top 10.
Posted by Shaun Nichols, 11 May 2010
first gents of sci-fy
Isaac Assimov , Robert A Heinlein , and Arthur C Clarke were giants who just about coined the term sci-fy, leaving them out is more then just a screw up. shame on the both of ya.....
Posted by Brian, 11 May 2010
Try reading some good SF
David Weber and Andre Norton deserve to be in the top 5 (and Dick, Ellison and Adams do not deserve to be in the top 500).
Posted by Duncan Macdonald, 12 May 2010
Only male writers need apply?
I did not realize that the pond was so wide that neither of you had heard of women writers in SF. You know that type that win Hugo's or Nebula's? Actually, after re-reading your article, I realized that the problem was minds too small to contain the data.
Posted by mbenwade, 12 May 2010
Ridiculous
Some of your added have no major works, and yet, you leave off writers like Dick, Orson Scott Card, Frank Herbert ? etc.. and while some of your included belong, several do not..
Posted by Chris, 12 May 2010
oh just half the list
Oh, that was only the top male SF writers? Where are the women, and please let's not say there weren't any that were influential: Le Guin, Tepper, Norton, McCaffery, Shelley, Cadigan, Murphy, etc. For shame, that you couldn't mention one woman.
Posted by Doris Lessing, 12 May 2010
Hmmmmm
That the article even mentions Star Trek and Red Dwarf in an article about writers posits the strong possibility it's going to be a rather, shall we say, limited, article. Write yourselves a "top 10 pop-culture sci-fi people" to get that angle out of your system.
Now, the writers. Have you actually read any Arthur C Clarke or Asimov? They they don't belong in a top 10 list of *writers*, they just weren't very good authors (nor was Tolkein, but hey, that's a different top 10 list).
Douglas Adams was a very funny author but sadly he doesn't deserve a place in the top 10 sci-fi writers, there are just too many more compelling writers.
I think you've stepped outside your comfort zone with this one boys.
Posted by steveg, 12 May 2010
Can't say that I agree
Well... My knowledge in the area is fairly encyclopeadic (yes I know it's geeky, but then my whole life is geeky), and this list is "bogus" to put it mildly. In large part it is down to the title...
The problem is this: are you writing a top-10-of-all-time, or a current top-10-as-enjoyed-by-people-today. Inlcuding the likes of HG Wells and Jules Verne strongly suggests an all-time approach, in which case some of the other choices are bizarre, and vice versa. Many of Gibson's books have not aged well, and Stephenson's output is very spotty. Also, today's writing styles are very different from the likes of Asimov, and I'd suggest that Banks or Reynolds would win hands down with most consumers just because of that.
Others who I would have expected to see: David Brin, Alastair Reynolds, Frank Herbert, maybe even Larry Niven (yes his output was variable, but it's hard to argue with Ringworld, the Mote, Integral Trees et al as being great high concept).
Posted by Kerome, 12 May 2010
You forgot!
Jack Vance.
Posted by James Tiberius, 12 May 2010
What an intriguing comment...
"..Where are Robert A Heinlein, John Wyndham or Arthur C Clarke? Isaac Assimov? James Blish?.."
Clarke and Asimov are included. And who reads Blish nowadays? Only the top-end geeks who expect the maths behind a 'warp engine' to be explained, the molecular details of Jovian ice chemistry to be presented, and the benefits of modern hydraulics technology to be presented in medieval Latin.
Blish is far too intellectual a science-fiction writer to be included in any 'top-ten' list....
Posted by dodgy geezer, 12 May 2010
PKD??????
You left out Philip K. Dick??? Without whom no Gibson, no Snow Crash, no Blade Runner, no cyberpunk...
you're obviously not doing the right drugs
Posted by Bob Dobbs, 12 May 2010
wth with this list
Where is the likes of Peter F Hamilton, jesus that list sucked. Not impressed.
Posted by NoYB, 12 May 2010
Old SF is mostly of historical interest.
SF evolves. Most good SF has been written in the last 15 - 20 years since the authors and the readership matured and writing became more competitive. Charles Stross, AC Clark and Neal Stephenson were mentioned but not Stephen Baxter (the best Evolution introduction ever written), Adam Roberts (read Salt or Stone), Vernor Vinge.
The top ten failed to mention earlier giants such as the Science Fantasy of Jack Vance and the beauty of Ursula le Guin.
Posted by Simon3, 12 May 2010
Le Guinn??
How can you omit ULG?
Whether you like her version of SFor not - she can actually *write" (got that Isaac?)!
This fact renders your analysis completly void!
Posted by Dan, 12 May 2010
Complete pants
What a crock of complete rubbish. Harlan who? FFS. I have over 2,000 sci-fi books at home and I've never heard of him. You've missed out Niven, Pournell, Anderson, Hamilton....(the list goes on).
Verne? Clarke? Banks? Come on. Verne's output was pitiful (he wrote one sci-fi novel) and poorly written despite being inventive. Clarke's stories are childish and badly presented and have limited creativity. Banks' sci-fi output is awful when compared to his non sci-fi works - boring and static, his sci-fi books are easily discarded. Roddenberry?? Have you guys even read the original Star Trek? OMG...it's awful. Wonderfully inventive but so badly written with cardboard characters and awful story lines. And as for Stross....Accelerando was ok but to put him in the top ten instead of Niven or Pournell is just a travesty. And whilst we're at it, what about Asher? Asher's writing is wonderfully creative and beatifully crafted. His worlds come to life and his characters have real depth.
You've missed out Morgan as well. Takeshi Kovacs is easily one of the greatest characters in modern sci-fi. Boys, you obviously don't know what you're talking about. You've nailed it with Heinlein, Stephenson and Gibson but otherwise you're doing nothing more than demonstrating the limits of your knowledge. Move on to the next screen (as Tak would say)
Posted by Jon, 12 May 2010
Strange writing in a strange article
Frank Herbert, Alfred Bester, Phillip K. Dick: missing giants.
Kudos for including Jules Verne and H.G. Wells.
Why Douglas Adams? Why Charles Stross?
How about an article on most influential science-fiction regardless of format? That would include films and tv series.It would speak to the enduring impact within people's minds that in turn impacts subsequent books and movies. Let's talk about the enduring glow of inspiration.
Posted by Wade, 12 May 2010
No Silverberg?
Although already mentioned by other commenters, a really major omission, not just for his ideas and storylines, but his superb writing style.
Plenty of other names to throw in:
Spinrad, Rutherford, Herbert, Moorcock, Disch, Dick, Zelazny, Le Guin, Aldiss, Niven, Haldeman and many, many more coudl easily be thrown into the hat.
Also why not look outside adult literature? How many kids did Andre Norton get hooked on SF for instance?
Adams is too high on the list for someone who mainly focuses on the comedic side of writing as that is not to everyone's taste (I write this as a huge fan of Adams, especially being from the UK as his humour is more easily appreciated here than in some other countries due to the cultural context).
I also love Banks (again cultural to some extent & a huge fan of his non SF work too) - including having lots of signed copies of his books from UK book signings... But would say he too is ranked too high (I think the list suffers a bit too much from "over egging" some authors of the last couple of decades).
I would say a better approach may be to split the SF "best of" into "eras" to address biases (that in many cases will be due to lack of familiarity with various others as it is always hard to get to grips with books from before the "era" you grew up with)
Posted by DaveC, 12 May 2010
Are you kidding? Seriously...?
Where is Dick with his dark views on existence and its inherent entropy-like schizophrenia? And Lem - with his unfriendly and man-incomprehensible universe? And where's Dan Simmons?
Posted by Sambucus Nigra, 12 May 2010
P.S.
P.S. WHERE is Frank Herbert???????????????????????
Posted by Sambucus Nigra, 12 May 2010
Most famous? Yes. Best? Not really.
While all of these are big names, none of them really compare to Robert Reed, Dan Simmons, or PKD. I'll accept that the PKD thing was just an oversight, but the list seems to have been chosen based on fame rather than actual quality.
Posted by Greg, 12 May 2010
Almost worried
I thought at first you were about to leave my favourite out - A.C. Clarke. But there he was at number one! Nice.
Has anyone noticed that his best work - 'Childhood's End' has never been made into a film or series? Seemingly he refused all attempts of directors trying to make it without him be given executive directorship.
Maybe his family will?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childhood%27s_End
Posted by Stuart Halliday, 12 May 2010
One more.
What about Michael Crichton?
Posted by Kelly, 13 May 2010
Without Frank Herbert...
this list, it has no merit.
Posted by C.H., 13 May 2010
You really IGNORED
Isaac Asimov, how on Earth could you have forgotten him. Prolific and profound. Met the man on a few occasions, so I know he is a nice guy to boot.
Posted by Eno-Master, 13 May 2010
And Where Was ...
... Larry Niven? I'm 60 and have been reading Sci-Fi since I learned to read, and I've never heard of 3 of your 10 in any way shape or form. Niven has been writing for over 40 years and is arguably (but let's not) the world's greatest "Hard" or Technical Science Fiction. The 6 books in the Ringworld series starting in 1969, should qualify him for inclusion in this list, not to mention the HUGE number of other stories and novels he's written.
Just my 2 cents worth ...
Posted by David Hughes, 13 May 2010
Very nicely done
I am hugely amused by the "experts" who don't recognise some names on this list. Anyone who couldn't name a few works by everyone on this list doesn't deserve to be called even mildly interested in SF.
I also laughed out loud at suggestions such as David Weber.
Good work, chaps.
Posted by Liam Proven, 13 May 2010
Another vote for Larry Niven
Ringword, Neutron Star, Protector.
'nuff said.
Posted by Richard, 13 May 2010
space opera
You include Stross but not Peter Hamilton - a bit of a mistake i would say ...
Posted by Sym, 16 May 2010
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Top 10 science fiction writers
Wordsmiths who inspired the minds of mankind
Only 10? Maybe 100 next time!
99.999% of published Wordsmythes who by the dim flicker of that evens single iconic candle pound away at the keys of their plastic and steel anvil forging the currency of our times from those prolix bar stocks of diction and hopefully come away with that bright polished edge that will carve out their own private niche. Only 82.5 down with balcony au lait overlooking the café of life.
99.999% of published wordsmiths
have inspired at least one mind
- his own
and then one more
- the publisher/editor
and maybe a reader or two,
so that's what 4? 5?
I guess that that qualifies as "minds of mankind" plural.
A valiant attempt but your toes were in front of the barrel long before the hammer struck the primer.
SF is a huge metatopic where you need to stick in some filters for a truly meaningful result.
I was able to glean more sources of potential reading pleasure from your readers submissions and pointed comments than from some of the dusty old dons that you held up to the light. But hey a go is a go is a go and you had the nerve to put it out there so good luck with the future.
Cheerz
M
Posted by Michael Ferguson, 22 May 2010
Michael Crichton
How the hell can they forget Michael Crichton, many of who's creations have been adopted into blockbuster movies
Posted by ssg, 24 May 2010
Olaf Stapledon-----An Original
How is it possible to leave out the originator
of so many mainstream themes that have been imitated so successfully..
Posted by John Riberts, 30 Apr 2011