<p>Some of you need to rethink your life's. Saying that reality is an illusion, or that we don't really exist. The fact that you said that proves your own existence, and proves that reality is real and objective. Kant has gotten you to disbelieve your own existence, and you probably don't even know who he is. Something that didn't exist couldn't say it didn't exist. A=A, even in a black hole, and that will be proven if we make one.</p>

Posted by: Mike 20 Jun 2010

<p>Here’s a thought, The Manhattan project cost almost two billion at a time when the word billion hardly existed in the common lexicon. Considering the monstrous costs of other wartime expenditures and considering the US had been in a “great depression” just five years prior, where did the money come from to fund the project? Then there is the interesting fact that during the development of the atomic bomb a large contingent of the scientist working on project speculated that there was a fifty-fifty chance the atomic explosion would bring about a chain reaction that would consume the atmosphere of planet, incinerating the earth in the process. I well remember seeing this scenario presented in the 1960’s movie, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. At the time I thought it was nothing more than rather bizarre science fiction fantasy. I never even considered the possibility that it was once thought not only possible, but likely to happen. </p> <p>At that point it was felt such an outcome to the test was a very real possibility, so who was responsible for rolling that particular pair of cosmic dice? Who might have had the power and background to give the go ahead for the project’s development and a green light to the first test? What mind, or more precisely what kind of mind, could have been presented with such facts and then said, “So you’re saying there is a fifty-fifty chance the entire planet might be incinerated or on the other hand we might gain the power of God? It’s a hard choice, but I think, we, think, it’s worth it.” Could it have been the new president who had been in office only three months and who received no briefing on the development of the atomic bomb; or might there be some greater power that made that decision? Perhaps it was someone who had two billion dollars to spend on weapons development.</p> <p>Then there is the Robert Oppenheimer who oversaw the project. Oppenheimer was one of a handful of men who then had a complete overview of the project and a full understanding of the weapon under development. Who did Oppenheimer report to that might actually understand the science and magnanimity of the project? And how convenient that FDR died just a few months before the testing of the bomb. If Roosevelt had any understanding and possible reservations about the project, then those concerns died with<br /> him, leaving whom to continue the ultimate oversight of the project? </p> <p>Similar questions should be asked about the LHC. Who exactly – EXACTLY - is the funding source? Who’s rolling the dice this time? Forget all the scary haunted house and black hole theories, start thinking about the potential developmental aspects of this project from a military standpoint. Only a fool would think that the military minds of this world are not viewing the possible weapons development that might be derived from this project. It’s funny how all the massive intellects working on these projects never stop to consider that they might in fact be on exactly the same path as Monsieur Guillotine. How many people on the Manhattan project ever stopped to consider the nightmare world they were about to create for their children? How many stopped to consider the minds that would ultimately control what they largely viewed as a physics experiment. Today the once mysterious marvels of “our friend the atom” has calcified into hard reality and nuclear weapons are as everyday as the jet airplane. </p> <p>In the final the outcome, while the Manhattan project did not incinerate the earth, it did lead to the development of the hydrogen bomb. Thanks to that “scientific project” the world presently stands on the very same brink of extinction that would have resulted from an uncontrolled chain reaction. So what might the LHC lead to that goes beyond a hydrogen bomb? I would dearly love to raise the Luddite flag and demand surrender but I am to pragmatic to believe that man will ever stop pursuing the possibilities of his imagination. If it can be developed it will be developed. <br /> <br /> </p>

Posted by: Arch Stanton 27 Feb 2010

<p>1) are we dead already?...without a gravitational field we dont hold a linear reality effectively..so perhaps the LHC worked perfectly, and we passed seamlessly into a probable reality. The world was flat once...that was Law. Beyond theory. Funding levels for a non profitable process of experimentation of this kind are powerfully irrational given the levels of debt many of these participating countries economies hold. Glad Austria has had its economic arm twisted and exposed its 'human' <br /> priorities at last. quantum physics tells us that the present is the only reality that truly exists. all other 'moments' are subjective...and schrodengers cat will remind us that what we expect will shape the destiny of outcome...so hypotheticals are potentials. scientists will create their reality eventually. Pointless. Reality is an illusion...albeit a sufficient one.</p>

Posted by: Mark 17 May 2009

<p>The truth is out there.</p> <p>And if they're lucky the truth might be in the donut at CERN too.</p> <p>Question is will other X-file-esque creatures also be found!!</p>

Posted by: Mike Gale 11 Sep 2008

<p>What it is like to work here</p> <p>The following quote is from a blog at Cernwatch.com, apparently from an insider at CERN LHC:</p> <p>'I am writing this blog becuase I am seeing some strange things that I have not seen before. I notice higher levels of security, and more US military presence. I hear strange rumors and weird Jokes. I think that there is more going on that what is being let out. i will report to you everything I hear and see.'</p> <p>Link to the complete blog message:<br /> <a href="http://www.cernwatch.com/2008/04/hello.html"><a href="http://www.cernwatch.com/2008/04/hello.html">http://www.cernwatch.com/2008/04/hello.html</a></a></p> <p>This is a quote from <a href="http://www.notepad.ch"><a href="http://www.notepad.ch">http://www.notepad.ch</a></a></p>

Posted by: activ8 28 Apr 2008

<p>The haunted house comparison is very close to what particle physics is. Ever since 1930 there have been bumps of energy measured when ordinary atoms have been spun up to speed and smacked together. Live in an old house long enough and every little bump will have a name and an imaginary character. Live in the world of particle physics and you will believe every little energy bump is real.</p> <p>They have one thing in common, no evidence. Not once has there been a single extra bit of matter left over from any of their experiments. After all the stuff quarks, bosons and whatever there is no matter created. They claim to create particles and there is no evidence.</p> <p>They have lost stuff though. It has disappeared out from within a sealed chamber designed to measure bumps. The only thing is they don't know where it went to.</p> <p>Even the physics is still in question and the theories contradict each other. Now to compare the energy:- it takes a few kilos of uranium to make a neat little bomb big enough to damage a city. If you could combine a golf ball size container of the stuff being produced at CERN the explosion on earth would knock the moon out of it orbit.</p> <p>So long as particle physics doesn't create that other thing in common with haunted houses, a world of ghosts.</p> <p>Michael.</p>

Posted by: Michael Noonan 28 Apr 2008

<p>Funny, but probably true!</p>

Posted by: Ann Hedonia 28 Apr 2008

<p>Yep! Might explain why we haven't contacted any alien life out there.</p> <p>Maybe that's just the way of the universe, blowing ourselves up. Technology has already screwed up this planet beyond repair, so why not end it all today instead of dragging this slow death out.</p>

Posted by: Adam 26 Apr 2008

<p>THE MOST PROBABLE SIDE-EFFECT AT CERN LHC, THEORETICALLY SHOULD BE: A 200-400 TeV QUANTUM INVERSION INDUCTION WAVE FUNCTION WORMHOLE. THIS SHOULD BACKWASH FROM IMPACT TARGET COORDINATES, THROUGH THE SUPER-CONDUCTORS ARRAY ELECTROMAGNETICALLY, AND CLOSE A CAUSALITY-LOOP COMPLETED AT THE HADRON UNIT. RELATIVISTIC SHIFTS SHOULD LAST 12-30 HOURS, AT A 30-60 MILE PERIMETER RANGE; AFTER AUTO-EMERGENCY SHUT-DOWN OF CERN LHC COMPLEX. TIME DILATION IS ANALOGOUS TO A NUCLEAR DETONATION, DUE TO ACCELERATION BENDING OF TIME/SPACE! THE HIGGS PARTICLE WOULD BE ONLY A SECONDARY DISCOVERY, WITHIN THIS FRAMEWORK PROBABILITY!</p>

Posted by: Robert I. Marsh II 25 Apr 2008

<p>Yes, this may be the IQ test for advancement of a species. Before you may advanced to Star Trek level of science, you must first NOT create microblackholes on your own planet. Only then are you permitted to advance to the next level. Our chances at the moment of us passing this IQ test look very iffy...</p> <p>CERNs web site states that we have not been destroyed by effects of cosmic rays and micro black holes will evaporate.</p> <p>However, cosmic rays strike relatively stationary objects and results travel too fast to be captured by Earths gravity, while colliders smash particles head on, may focus all energy to a single point and can be captured by Earths gravity. Einsteins relativity theory predicts that micro black holes will not decay but instead only grow, and Hawking Radiation contradicts relativity, is unproven and is credibly disputed by at least 3 peer reviewed studies.</p> <p>The LHC Safety Assessment Group has been trying for months to prove safety without success. However science may still be a few years away from being able to prove safety or not.</p> <p>Professor Dr. Otto E. Roessler, Theorist Dr. Raj Baldev and others are warning of a very real, very possible, very present danger to the planet from the Large Hadron Collider.</p> <p>If this experiment is so safe, why arent CERN scientists allowed to express any personal fears they might have about this Collider?</p> <p>Alleged in the legal action: Chief Scientific Officer, Mr. Engelen passed an internal memorandum to workers at CERN, asking them, regardless of personal opinion, to affirm in all interviews that there were no risks involved in the experiments, changing the previous assertion of minimal risk. (Statisticians generally consider minimal risk as 1-10%).</p> <p>Previous safety studies (<a href="http://www.bnl.gov/RHIC/docs/rhicreport.pdf)"><a href="http://www.bnl.gov/RHIC/docs/rhicreport.pdf)">http://www.bnl.gov/RHIC/docs/rhicreport.pdf)</a></a> ruled out any possibility of creating microblackholes in a collider. But predictions have changed and CERN has estimated the possibility of creating 1 microblackhole per second in the Large Hadron Collider. No peer reviewed safety study has ever been produced that I am aware of that speaks to the safety of creating microblackholes on Earth.</p> <p>If we delay for a safety study, some scientists at CERN may not be the first to discover some new science, and some Nobel prizes may be at stake.<br /> But which would more wise, conduct a full and independent adversarial peer reviewed safety study first, or just turn it on now and discover science as quickly as humanly possible?</p> <p>JTankers<br /> LHCConcerns.com</p>

Posted by: JTankers 25 Apr 2008